Dave Evans bgak015
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"there are old pilots and there are bold pilots but there are few old and bold pilots"
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Post by Dave Evans bgak015 on Jan 9, 2010 11:37:00 GMT -5
Good suggestions Tom , I have finally decided on and registered my two aircraft to fly. Tried to keep track of four last GAAR and it drove me crazy trying to keep up with it all. doing a few test flights of the route and it is the first time I have a computer with enough power to use VOZ scenery, what a difference this scenery makes in FS9 with all the settings slid full right,it is like I had never seen FS9 before now. Wonder if I can resist the urge to pounce on Katie's Pipkins Zero.
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Post by Capt Zlogg on Jan 9, 2010 12:25:45 GMT -5
There is one thing that could make the GAAR a litle more interesting: Give us a brief waether report covering the airports and then let us find our own way between them. When you give us complete instructions from ramp to ramp it takes some of the fun out of it. You might also tell us we are forbidden to fly in restricted zones. Some of us might even obey. Comrade Goofer it would be even more interesting to cranck in nasty weather from a starting airport and tell the pilots: "First airport in that general direction, dobry den". We at KGB Air Droppers are used to that kind of navigation and we assure it offers hilarious results. cheers Capt. Zlogg vp KGB Air Droppers (cows, elephants & rhinos) master sniffer Siberian gasfields (Irkutsk branche)
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Post by Tom Goodrick on Jan 9, 2010 12:32:13 GMT -5
Another thing that would spice up the rally a little would be to limit re-fuelling to only those airports that have fuel available. Having flown into a few of these, I don't see too many fuel pumps.
Could someone familiar with the local scene check into this and tell us which airports can provide fuel in real life? I suspect most people will onlly need one or two fuel stops but we should be required to do enough planniing to get the fuel where it really would be available. If fuel supply is a problem, perhaps we could chip in and get some fuel trucks to drive to the central airport to supply the Rally aircraft.
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Post by katiepipkin on Jan 9, 2010 12:37:06 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me if any of the default FSX Deluxe aircraft are eligible to fly?
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Post by Brett I. Holcomb on Jan 9, 2010 14:03:50 GMT -5
Can anyone tell me if any of the default FSX Deluxe aircraft are eligible to fly? The DC-3 is for sure <G>. So is the Grumman Goose The Maule company was founded in 1941 so the M7 should come under the rule about it being a descendant The Piper cub The Beaver also C172
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Post by katiepipkin on Jan 9, 2010 14:59:59 GMT -5
Isn't the C172 a more modern version, even though the first ones are from the 50's? And I thought the Goose was a turboprop (I haven't flown it much so I'm not sure)
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Ed Burke
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Post by Ed Burke on Jan 9, 2010 16:24:29 GMT -5
Welcome back Katie. The Goose has a couple of P&W 450 hp round ones. As I recall the ruling on a/c types, if the basic design is within the age limitation then more recent versions are ok.
I'm still tossing around ideas on what to fly. It has to able to carry a case or two of vino and provide some comfort for the Red dog and driver-airframe. Last year's Bristol Frightener was excellent but I can't afford the fuel this year.
Ed
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Post by rattler1 on Jan 9, 2010 17:24:16 GMT -5
Well, decision made. After my "incidents" with the Pig last year, I decided a tricycle gear this time. I wanted British military and capable of taking the shortish strips. A bit of thought and "aah, deHavilland" A quick chat with the RAF museum at Cosford and their beautiful DH104 Devon (military Dove) was delivered to my local airfield, Earl's Colne (EGSR). So far Earl's Colne-Prague-Bucharest but I have to say I'm getting fed up with the northern winter.
Tom's suggestion of fuel calculations is good, but we must bear in mind that not everyone has a goodly range. Last year I was able to help out by managing five or six legs between fuel stops, but the Devon doesn't have the legs of the Valetta, so it may be a bit more problematic this time around.
Looking forward to the weather warming up, and see you all in Oz.
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Post by Brett I. Holcomb on Jan 9, 2010 18:20:34 GMT -5
Isn't the C172 a more modern version, even though the first ones are from the 50's? And I thought the Goose was a turboprop (I haven't flown it much so I'm not sure) The 172 is listed as an example in the rules in that descendent's of an older aircraft -"Subsequent model variants of an aircraft are eligible under this rule, e.g. Cessna 172 - first flew in 1956, (thereby making it eligible) with current production models being the 172R and 172S (or 172SP)", The Goose has two P&W 450 radials.
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Post by Tom Goodrick on Jan 10, 2010 0:30:04 GMT -5
Both the Cessna 172 and the Cessna 182 were flying in the 1950's. The only changes have been window sizes and optional versions with turbocharging or larger engines.
Here are some aircraft I have flown in the past or have considered for use in this GAAR. Generally, you will score better in this current GAAR with slower aircraft (cruising under 150 knots). A tail wheel is a good idea on at least two legs with landings on grass and gravel. If the nose gear does not break as it should eventually on a dirt strip, it will kick stones back into the props on a low-wing twin. (Most stones just miss the props on my Aero Commander.)
Aero Commander 560, 680, Beech 18 and derivatives such as the Volpar, Piper Apache twin, Beech Bonanza (preferably the V-tail version), Piper Comanche 250, Aeronca Champ, Piper J-3 Cub, Stinson 108 Voyager, DC-3, Convair 240, T-28, Ercoupe or later Alon Aircoupe that has rudders, T-6 Harvard or Texan, and last of all (for me) the F4U Corsair.
The DC-3 would be fine but I would fly it a little bit lighter than normal.
(I tested the Corsair and was able to get it down and stopped in a decent length even with a fair amount of fuel. But we don't have much use for speed like that with legs averaging just over 100 nm.)
If you must use FSX, I understand most FS9 aircraft can be flown in FSX without major modification. I don't use it myself. I would download a good FS9 version of a complete aircraft and try it.
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Dave Evans bgak015
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Post by Dave Evans bgak015 on Jan 10, 2010 7:41:11 GMT -5
I have flown F9F-2 Panther(first GAAR I entered,they left a LOOP HOLE and forgot to mention NO JET ENGINES ;D) was totally WRONG for the contest( caught most of Australia on fire that year) B-25 Mitchell scored fair the best was a CESSNA 170A. GLOBE SWIFT was good ,I was leaning toward PIPER TRI-PACER, or EROCOUPE,but when I saw the PT-19 with its blue an yellow paint pre-WW2 paint scheme and 90 Knot cruising speed,then I thought lets see how short can a P-38 get in and out made my two choices fairly short leg on this one so really a nice 80 - 200 Knot aircraft would work .
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Post by Tom Goodrick on Jan 10, 2010 9:56:39 GMT -5
I forgot to mention the Blue Grass C-123 that I flew in a recent GAAR. It is big but does a nice job with short fields. The props are high enough to avoid most stones. i considered it for this GAAR and still might fly it. BUt I'd like to fly something I have not flown in a GAAR before. I tried getting a C-46 but could not handle the download time for the fancy version and Avsim can't find their small file.
As far as moving FS9 aircraft into FSX, someone with experience should speak up.
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Post by katiepipkin on Jan 10, 2010 10:07:33 GMT -5
I tried the Lockheed Vega from FS9 imported into FSX but the windows in the cockpit just showed blank blueness! Great for practicing IFR but not ideal for this... (It was downloaded from flightsim.com). I decided the Zero was a little overpowerd for this course, so Dave you can have it! I'm now torn between the Grumman Goose or being really really boring and using a C172.
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Dave Evans bgak015
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Post by Dave Evans bgak015 on Jan 10, 2010 10:43:07 GMT -5
try the Blue Grass Cessna 195 in the hanger(my first Bluegrass Aircraft) anything but boring. another one, a Bell Airocobra (we sent a bunch of them to Capt. Zlogg government they put them to good use,We thought they were a pursuit aircraft,they found out they pursued tanks very well)
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Post by Capt Zlogg on Jan 10, 2010 12:23:36 GMT -5
<Zlogg mode off>
Katie, Good to see you back again! Did you consider the Spartan? I used it last year and is very pleasant to fly, has the range and speed and is fully equiped with all the navs you need. <zlogg mode on>
Comrade Evil, On behalf of the kommintern of the Great Motherland we thank you for the rubble you send us. They made fine lawn mowers in the tundra's. We already have the best pursuit a/c for chasing the dark forces AND tanks: our beloved Sturmovik. Ask Berlin for full details!
cheers Capt. Zlogg vp KGB Air Droppers (cows, elephants & rhinos)
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