Was reflying Leg 4 of the GARSA trip in a Boeing 247D and descended down toward SKNV for the touch and go. Contacted FSX ATC and asked for permission and was told to make a right downwind for runway 1. Flew as directed, Cleared for the touch and go left traffic runway 1. HUH!!! Made the right base and t&g anyway, I was on a tight schedule and didn't hear from them again untill I had made the turn around to head toward the next and last stop in Pitalito (SKPI). As I was flying past SKNV on the left downwind side of RW1 at the required altitude, after leaving the airport, I was again given permission to land on a left circuit for rw one(see image below). Gotta love this Sim. My question is, Does this mean I do not get credit for the t&g?
Thanks to BGA for the flights, they were alot of fun. and thanks to FSX for the entertainment you always provide.
Post by Andrew Godden on Sept 15, 2011 18:57:07 GMT -5
I'd put the left or right traffic thing down to another quirk of FSX unless you inadvertantly crossed the extended runway centreline in the circuit pattern.
Also, when using ATC, once you are "cleared" to land or for a T&G, you wont' hear from them again until you have completed the action. In the case of a T&G, after completing it, you must then cancel your landing intentions with ATC or they will continue to assume you want to execute another T&G.
As for the credit for the T&G, provided you executed it as per the GARSA Flight Briefing instructions, you are credited with the T&G.
In the FSX Pilot Records, a T&G won't be counted as a landing unless all wheels touch the runway during it's execution.
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I was between 2-2.50miles away from the airport during the right downwind. This gives me enough room to turn base and mouse look when to turn final.
I didn't see any specifics for the T&Go's in the briefing or the rules. I never did set the tailwheel down because I was afraid to go below the 35kt minimum for the in flight timer so just maintained a level two wheel touchdown, rolled down the runway a bit between 40 and 50kts and then took off again at 70kts. Never really thought about getting all three wheels down during a T&G in a taildragger before. I guess I could try to slow down enough and pull the nose up and drop all three wheels down at the same time but never thought that would be too good for the rear end. I have always, even on a full stop, tried to stay on the mains as long as possible to see where I was going. So unless you say the tail has to touch also, I will count it as a good one. What do all the other pilots of the taildraggers do?
Post by Andrew Godden on Sept 16, 2011 1:32:42 GMT -5
If anyone can confirm a definitive definition for a T&G it would be appreciated. The only thing I have seen that comes close to a definition of what constitutes a T&G is "...involves landing on a runway and taking off again without comming to a full stop..." as the real world purpose of them is to practice circuits and landings.
For rally purposes, I'm happy with the main gear making contact with the runway.
Just to clarify, my point about all wheels touching, was mutually exclusive of the rally T&Gs and only to point out how FSX treats it as a landing in relation to recording it in the FSX Pilot Record (Log Book).