You looking for a DC3?

[louross]

In case you aren't aware, there is a DC3 by Chas. E. Owen at flightsim.com (I hope both points are correct).
Amazing program. Various systems well modeled; numerous failures are programed. This is a program you need to read the small manual and follow procedures. e.g., if you don't start the engine correctly, you may have and engine fire. He has also written code to model airframe icing and carb icing. etc, etc.
If you are looking for a 3 with some reality, this is probably it.
lr.

[budsbud]

I have the default FS9 DC3 and a MAAM R4D but if I can find something better I would take it. I have searched about 50 enteries on flightsim.com, found about 40 repaints but not the plane you refer to.
Could you give us some more details please
.
Bud

[louross]

Hello Bud,

At flightsim.com at their search type in file name: dc3cv1.zip

I'd sure like to hear your opinion about it!

lr.

[budsbud]

Mr. Ross
Thanks for the info and I found it.
I have downloaded about 10-12 ho-hum aircraft from various web sites BUT I have never been as surprised as I was by this DC3c.
I don’t know if it was all my stupid blunders or all the stuff built into this package. It was late but I just could not resist loading it up and checking it out. I did read the authors instructions and certainly agree that the proper checks should be done as in the real world. I learned years ago that in aviation your first mistake may well be your last.
I never even got past the first part of the check list before the whole thing went to heck. I did finally get the bird to stagger off into the air but then things went from bad to worse.
It was so late by this time I just quit and will tackle this beast again tomorrow. Now I would be most interested in your take on this plane.

Bud

[louross]

Well, in those days, they said if you walked away from it you did okay!

Especially the first few flights, you need to be rested and not in a hurry, and, as you see, know and follow the manual. I've had several engine fires on approach, an engine failure at cruise, had to deal with carb ice and twice with airframe icing in this one.
I am not a DC3 pilot, only had a few flights in one as a kid, in fact probably only one. But I really couldn't find any DC3's in flight sim that I wanted to use until I found this one, and don't even remember how I found it.
"Not for kids".

Keep me (us) posted!
lr.

P.S. I'm sure you know about the A/N Range program.

[budsbud]

Mr. Ross
Well you have had some of the events happen to you also, BUT I cannot even load the plane and begin the checks because both engines are on fire form the first get-go. I beat around trying to use the fire bottles, shut everything down, pull the power, etc. Nothing seems to work I have managed to change airports and the fires are out I take off and come around for a touch &go and on final the port engine is once more on fire. I shut it down and feather the prop. Managed to reach the runway but still could not put out the fire.
Man how do you tame this beast ? Any suggestions would be gratefully received.
Bud

[louross]

Wow! Wellp, haven't had that problem opening FS. But, here is my procedure. The thing is, when you load default or similar a/c programs, you can do it directly. If you are going to load a complex a/c (complex program, that is), and I'm sure this one would qualify as complex, first you have to load the default 172. The full procedure is:
1) load MSFS with the default 172 at the default airport (which is KSEA). Let it boot up or load completely.
2) move the default 172 to the airport and gate or runway you want to be at and let it load completely.
3) Press CTRL/SHIFT/F1 on the keyboard in order to shut down the default 172- don't change anyting else.
4) Set your FS time and wx as you wish.
5) Load the DC3C.

It would probably be a good idea to clean out any files in the MS folder that saves and stores files and your own saved flights that are connected to the DC3C. If you have "CCLEANER", run it (it's a free download, you can do a search).

The a/c will load with the engines shut down, but switches are all ON. You can then set all switches to OFF if you like. Set the fuel as necessary. I hope this will take care of the fire problem when you open FS, there shouldn't be a fire.

On starting, just follow the procedures in the manual- don't overprime. The engine fires I've had seemed to be common to certain airports. Many approaches I had into XDEN (Stapleton, from calclassics) there was a fire in the left engine. I did a lot of FS flying thru Arizona, New Mexico, and Colorado with no engine fires.

Let me know what happens. I assume you are quite familiar with the manual by now.
lr.

( Wait. Just a minute, mmmm, port is left and starboard is right. No, port is, no, no, ....)

[flaminghotsauce]

Wow! Y'all got me wishing for FS9 again just so I can play with this beast!

[budsbud]

Yep you had it right hte first time. Port is to the left and starboardis to the right. Old Navy stuff you know.
Thanks for the info on preloading the 172. Never thought abiut that twist. Yes I do have CCleaner and use it daily.
I am posting the latest image of my trials on the Nov screenshots.
I think I have a bit of a problem ??

[louross]

I don't know what to say. Maybe un-install, re-download, and install again. If that doesn't work, send an eail to ceo - listed in the paperwork. That's really a shame.

lr.

[Chris Ross]

Port Wine is Red
Port Red and Left
are all shorter than
Starbord Green and Right

[louross]

Bud- just a thought- are you sure that the primer switch goes OFF after you prime the engine???


Chris- that's a good one. I would always think: left is shorter than right and red is shorter than green so red must be left. of course by that time the other plane is gone! You've got a good one!

lr.

[budsbud]

Oh boy is my face red. I was thinking one way and typing another. Oh werel as they say the second thing to go is the mind. Mine keft a long time ago. Ok I followed your advice and loaded the 172 first then the DC3c an moved to Kmco and have the thing working almost noe=rmally,,, for me that is.
Again thanks for the heads up.
Bud

[louross]

Okay, that's great. Things can only get better now. Kepp it low and slow!
lr.

BTW- nice photo you posted!

[Tom Goodrick]

I just posted FD files for a DC-3 on my web site. It lands nicely and flies pretty well too. It is not likely to burn up. It is a modification of the FD for the default model.