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Post by Allen Peterson on Jun 19, 2010 18:27:02 GMT -5
Good job, guys. Tom, I'd like a set of fds also when you have them ready. Allen
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Ed Burke
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Post by Ed Burke on Jun 20, 2010 2:32:38 GMT -5
Thanks for those words Lou. I'm looking forward to flying the beast. Tom sent me the files but I managed to wipe the .air file somehow and I have requested a copy.
The guy in BC is using full flap, can't imagine why, and he seems to be intent on following the clearing formed by the road rather than climbing straight ahead over the trees which I thought presented nothing more threatening than some green stuff to admire. However he has overdone the bank a tad. Very strange that he couldn't pick up that wing though. A loss of power on no. 2 ?? or below VMC. No huge rudder input though. It would have been good if the camera op had kept his cool !
Ok on the sound, I recall hearing that prop noise during the few rides I have had. I'll turn the gain well up and see who complains first, however I reckon that person and I might have been together for a long, long while.
Wouldn't be dead for quids ;D Ed
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Post by Tom Goodrick on Jun 20, 2010 22:58:57 GMT -5
Ed and I have problems with somebody's firewall on our emails. I think it is probably Homeland Security screwing things up. I did not get his email requesting the .air file so I sent it after reading his note here. I think what happened is that some joker at Homeland Security couldn't read the .air file so he blanked it or messed it up trying to read it. If we have trouble again I'll zip it. They usually pass those on after reading them offline.
Anyway, we'll keep trying.
There are two things I want to emphacise about flying this DHC-6 model. First you will be more than 2000 lbs over gross if you just put the plane on a runway and fly it. It comes with both full seats and full tanks but can't fly that way. You must either bump some pax or dump some fuel. I use 50% fuel in the front tank (Center) and zero fuel in the aft tank (Center2). You have to do this every time you load the plane unless you make and save a flight Situation with the proper load.
The second thing is a point Lou has made many times but I don't think it registers with everybody. You must set the condition lever to low idle before starting a flight. This happens automatically if you shut down the engines and do a restart with Ctrl-E. but then you should be aware that FS will not set the gen switches correctly after the restart. They are set to OFF. This will cause a blackout in 2 to 3 minutes until the gen switches are turned ON. If you see a gen switch on the panel, watch it during restart to make sure those switches are set right.
If you have to set the condition levers to low idle manually, the only way I know to get it right is to use my TPower Panel popup and set the condition lever to 40.2%. (It may well be easiest to cut the power and restart.) Setting this lever wrong and flying with high idle will mess up the readings on most gauges.
The Condtion lever setting as well as the weight problem can be solved just by saving a flight Situation with the proper settings.
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Post by louross on Jun 21, 2010 6:13:35 GMT -5
Very interesting observations there, Ed. Maybe he was over weight, or at least over weight based on density altitude, or too slow. I have a question- do you think he was actually trying to turn, or due to some factor the wing fell? lr.
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Post by Ed Burke on Jun 21, 2010 16:14:25 GMT -5
It looked deliberate to me, just overdone, there is a momentary input of right rudder at the initiation of the turn. Still doesn't explain why he didn't pick up that wing, it would have been an instinctive reaction. I looked at the Canadian reports on incidents but with a general search of DHC-6 it didn't come up. There is certainly a date there but it may have been the date of posting the vid. I guess the pilot is now driving a taxi.
Ed
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Post by sanimpoi on Dec 6, 2010 15:38:48 GMT -5
:Dthank Not much to do with stall characteristics of the Twotter but a few years ago I had a flight from Aeropelican YPEC near Newcastle, New South Wales to Sydney YSSY in one. A short trip but a memorable one due to the clear skies and a maximum of 5000'. The views were wonderful and unobstructed by hardware. I was musing about how the approach into a major airport would be handled in a true STOL aircraft. So I watched carefully as we did a very conventional interception of the glide slope and aimed for the threshold of runway 34R. All was, apart from the speed, precisely what we would have been doing in a B737 until we flared for the landing. Then a tweak of power and we flew the entire 7000 feet of the runway at 6' agl until a gentle touch down and a burst of reversed props saw us enter the taxiway at a nice legal pace. Very, very neat indeed and we made surplus 99% of the blacktop. Mentioned this to the pilot as were were leaving the cabin and he just grinned and said "Dead easy mate but they still charge us landing fees". Ed
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Post by Ed Burke on Dec 6, 2010 16:30:12 GMT -5
You're welcome
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Post by kremin on Mar 11, 2011 7:56:00 GMT -5
....... Anyway, we'll keep trying. ....... Hello Tom, I've finally found you guys again - used to be fairly regular at the previous website a year or two back. This is a very interesting thread and I would much appreciate a copy of your fd files for the twotter. I imagine you have access to my email address from my rego details....if not it's rjcekj05/at/yahoo.com.au...replace /at/ by you know what Hope you're all in good shape. best regards Rick Canham Kangaroo Island South Australia
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