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Post by Joe on Sept 16, 2012 1:49:57 GMT -5
www.ky3.com/news/ky3-plane-crashes-near-willard-authorities-report-multiple-fatalities-20120915,0,1219338.story Willard is right outside of Springfield in SW Missouri. A man and woman, and his three kids, were returning from a KC Royals game after midnight in a Cirrus. They all died. I'd actually driven to Springfield earlier that day. The weather was lousy, low ceiling, drizzles, but at least a little visibility. The plane basically disintegrated on impact so there's no idea what caused the crash.
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Post by flaminghotsauce on Sept 16, 2012 21:51:12 GMT -5
I was wondering if that was weather related. I didn't see much detail i.e. was it intact at impact, or possible broke up in flight, enroute or attempting to land, etc.
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Post by Joe on Sept 17, 2012 19:22:12 GMT -5
Further accounts: A light sprinkle was falling from the sky when John Lambert's plane came into earshot. "I could hear it going from the north, going south, and it caught my ears, I guess because it got lower and lower. It was kind of, reer, reer, like that. And then it got so low, I thought, gee, he's awful close," says Cindy Farmer.
Cindy went to look out the window. "Just then, I heard the hit, and it was just like a sonic boom. It shook the house, and then I saw the huge fireball up above the tree line," Cindy says.
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Post by Joe on Sept 17, 2012 19:35:14 GMT -5
15 00:52 E 8 8.00 Light Rain OVC007 60 58 93% NA NA 30.26 1024.3 15 01:52 E 5 5.00 Fog/Mist OVC005 60 58 93% NA NA 30.26 1024.4 15 02:52 E 7 3.00 Rain Fog/Mist FEW007 BKN017 OVC045 60 58 93% NA NA 30.25 1023.8 0.08
This is what SGF was reporting early Saturday morning (times are local for the 15th and the temp/dewpoints are F.)
I looked at FlightAware to try to find out if they flew high enough to encounter any icing but I don't see the flight out of KLXT (Lee's Summit), which means they weren't even IFR, correct?
At the point where Cindy says she heard the "reer, reer" noise, they would have been too low to deploy the parachute?
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Post by flaminghotsauce on Sept 17, 2012 20:27:22 GMT -5
Correct on the non-IFR. Certainly IFR conditions reported. VFR flights don't show up on FlightAware.
I think they do need some altitude to deploy the chute. What is the descent rate under the canopy? something like 17 knots vertical speed. They probably need a couple thousand feet. My bet is disorientation even though those airplanes have big flat panel displays.
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Post by Tom Goodrick on Sept 18, 2012 18:56:14 GMT -5
Flight Aware cancels out a flight that crashes very quickly after a crash. The NTSB prelininary should be out in a few days. But it has been a busy time. We had three crashes in the last few days and then a local TV station dug out the final report on a crash from 14 months ago so they had more to talk about.
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