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Post by Andrew Godden on Jan 6, 2012 21:48:14 GMT -5
Sorry mates to bore you with a question from from the technical field: I was a privat pilot for 25 yrs. but never confronted with such high flight level like in PNG. Even not in the alps! Q: When I fly with a MAP of 18" and RPM 2300 on 12500 ft AMSL, do I over_torque my engine? PS: nearly full lean and ARCS are all in the green! Cheers Urs Urs, Please excuse the slightly less technical answer. To the best of my knowledge and having only flown at such altitudes in MSFS and mostly in the DC-3, provided all gauges are in the green, you shouldn't be over torquing the engine. Cheers Andrew
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Post by davidrevans on Jan 6, 2012 22:30:21 GMT -5
In the cessna 170B with full throttle I can get to 16 ,000 if I burn off half the fuel and step climb at 200 Fpm, and flap my arms real hard,but if a wind gust hits I'm droping off on a wing..the motor gauges stay in the green if I lean properly,but that is all she has..
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Post by Allan_Lowson on Jan 7, 2012 8:05:52 GMT -5
Before we all get carried away with altitude sickness, there is no need to go up to 16,000' to get between the airports in PNG. I do not now what the routes will be yet, but if you fly a direct route between the listed airports there is no need to go above 13,000 - I've just done it in a sadly ineligible Gripen.
As for plane choice, Milt Shupe's Spartan Exec and the now freeware Alphasim T-28 will waltz the heights and the YMUI landing/departure as single engine choices in either FS9 or X, Milt's D-18S is available in both FS9 & X and the default DC-3 will manage YMUI with a modicum of fuel and load management. Not to mention Yorks/Lancastrians/DC-4s to name but a few if you want to go multi-engine.
I'll probably settle for a Twin Pin in FSX and the Bristol Wayfarer 32 in FS9, but I'm still fiddling with nav dial doo-hickeys.
So don't panic and get a bit adventurous in your aircraft choice - it's half the fun after all.
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Post by johnl on Jan 7, 2012 8:57:53 GMT -5
If you are being adventurous in your choice of aircraft, it's probably a good idea to pick one which has landing lights - I had a rather Prunish adventure involving trying to land an Auster Husky on an unlit strip at night in the GARSA....
As we possibly have participants on their first GAAR who are unused to the joys of Australian aviation it's about time to mention the Australian T-VASI landing aid. I don't know whether any of this year's runways have them (on the trial flight, you should see one at YARG in FS9) but they can come as a nasty shock to someone brought up on VASIs and PAPIs, as the "perfect approach" appearance of a T-VASI resembles the "too high" appearance of a PAPI. Briefly:- 1) T-VASI only uses WHITE lights (no REDS). 2) If you see what looks like a capital T, with 2 lights in the crossbar, and 1/2/3 lights in the upright, you are SLIGHTLY LOW/LOW/VERY LOW. 3) If you only see 2 lights side-by-side you are on the glide slope. 4) If you see what looks like an upside-down capital T, with 2 lights in the crossbar, and 1/2/3 lights in the upright, you are SLIGHTLY HIGH/HIGH/VERY HIGH.
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Post by uhug on Jan 7, 2012 12:24:26 GMT -5
"So don't panic and get a bit adventurous in your aircraft choice - it's half the fun after all."
Allan, your are right! Cheers
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Post by Allan_Lowson on Jan 7, 2012 16:18:26 GMT -5
Good point about the landing lights John, hanging a guide dog out the door doesn't really work - mine kept howling all the time when I took a DH60 round a couple of years ago. There are two things you can never do to an aircraft in FS, add landing lights or spin. The lights are coded into the model, and simply make the sim shine light on the ground night textures which is not the same as having light emitted from the aircraft. Spinning requires separate modelling of the airflows over each wing and FS assumes the wing is a single mathematical entity. but that's another topic altogether! (No animals were harmed in the writing of this post.)
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Post by johnl on Jan 7, 2012 18:45:22 GMT -5
Anyone out there with the time, talent, and inclination to do a natty paint job for my Percival Q6?
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Post by Jon on Jan 9, 2012 17:24:57 GMT -5
. . . All the above is roobish - typical kapitalistny decandenty propaganda aimed at our beloved Motherland. . . . Dobri den, Capt Zlogg! We missed you -- figured you were still stuck in Mother Rus-SI-ya. Udachi, Camarad!
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Post by rattler1 on Jan 10, 2012 17:02:27 GMT -5
Well, I'm in now, hoping the old bird can cope with the altitudes. I'm offering up a DH89 Rapide, the oldest beast I've tried in the GAAR. The book says she is capable of 19,000', but I think the engines give out well before that. I don't think I can offer any payload this time, so you'll all have to bring your own booze along. Looking forward to seeing you, if the Gypsies hold up.
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Post by johnl on Jan 11, 2012 11:28:41 GMT -5
I hope it's a DH89A - the original DH89 was flapless and used to "float" when you flared for landing. The DH89A has a big lever (looks like a giant handbrake) on the floor to your right to lower or raise the flaps (they're either UP or DOWN). The Rapide should have no trouble with the altitude (you'll pass out before the Gipsy Queens give up), and I would recommend one to anyone seeking a "gentleman's aerial carriage".
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Post by johnl on Jan 11, 2012 11:40:52 GMT -5
Q: When I fly with a MAP of 18" and RPM 2300 on 12500 ft AMSL, do I over_torque my engine? PS: nearly full lean and ARCS are all in the green! Cheers Urs Urs, apart from noise, heat, and lubrication problems, you are also shortening the engine life (not a good idea over the wilds of Queensland, the jungles of PNG, or the shark-and-salt-water-crocodile-infested bit in between ;D ) . Keep it lean but lower your revs to 1800 or lower. (MAP should be greater or equal to to rpm/100). If it's any consolation, I have a similar problem with the Q6 Petrel, but with the added joy of (British) Boost gauges rather than MAP gauges (0lbs boost = 30" MAP, and each 1lb difference equals 2")
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Post by rattler1 on Jan 11, 2012 13:03:02 GMT -5
Hi John. Yes, it's an 89a, big barn doors. Took a bit of "tweaking" though. I've got hold of a second-hand VOR and ADF set, bolted to the back of the seat, where my "co-pilot" can read it. It takes a lot out of the generator, but seems to be OK. Single-pilot is interesting; if we want to change over it's a case of trim well and scramble out over the seat. There's one of these at Duxford, not far from me, which still manages to do pleasure flights; only a matter of time before the EU regulators shut it down though.
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Post by uhug on Jan 11, 2012 19:54:30 GMT -5
John Found a Power Setting Table - Lycoming Model IO-360-C Series, 200 HP Engine, same as the SAAB Safir 91D has:
Press. Alt. in ft: 13000 AMSL 110 HP - 55% Rated: RPM 2400 / MAP17.6" Std. Alt. Temp °C: -11
Will see! Cheers Urs
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Post by Capt Zlogg on Jan 12, 2012 11:56:40 GMT -5
Dear Comrades, On behalf of the Kommintern of our Glorious Motherland we all greet you, sorry kapitalsitny lot.
Contrary to agent Ed's misconceptions of our whereabouts we have been very busy on several projects concerning dramatic fuel improvements, radical new transportation designs and some related food & beverages breakthru's.
Currently Proppy and myself are evaluating offers and bribes from leading aircraft manufacturers world wide to select the proper aeroplane to fly this event and test various new inventions originating from (again) our Workers Paradise. Proper customs regulations shall be observed (including lavish distribution of funds to authorities and/or officials concerned).
On a more personal note: Babushka is now a leading racketeer in the beet root business, aunt Natasha started a glowing relationship with a Japanese sales representative of a leading manufacturer of plastic underwear, uncle Theo still tries to invent the golden nugget zeroing in on his umpteenth perfect result while Proppy learns the basics of sweeping counties and states in preparation of his future job after winning the elections.
cheers Capt Zlogg VP KGB Air Droppers (cows, elephants & rhinos) leading start button pusher Baikonur Space Vehicle Launching Centre.
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Post by johnl on Jan 12, 2012 15:44:43 GMT -5
John Found a Power Setting Table - Lycoming Model IO-360-C Series, 200 HP Engine, same as the SAAB Safir 91D has: Press. Alt. in ft: 13000 AMSL 110 HP - 55% Rated: RPM 2400 / MAP17.6" Std. Alt. Temp °C: -11 Will see! Cheers Urs I can't argue with that. The only thing I know about Lycomings is that twins are pretty quiet, but the 3 on the Trislander are NOISY.
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